Ultimate Spider-Man
He really does not stand out to me at all, ignoring that he can't attack mech enemies which is really annoying in pve.
Just seems like hes kinda pointless, like his comic. I don't wanna go into to much Morales as Spider-Man. But just comparing it to the last article character I wrote about, Superior Spider-Man that was a great comic story, its really, really good if you like Spider-Man you should go and read it. There they really went and wrote something interesting about another person with Spider powers.
Ultimate Spider-man(the second one then) its just Peter Parker with another skin color. That is what it is. I just wanna say sucked. I do not mind Spider-Man not being white, well Superior was still white soooo, good?
That is really not the issue with Morales that hes a Latino. The issue is they just gave him pretty much the exact same personality as Peter Parker and you know living condition, etc its all pretty much the same story. So instead of writing something interesting in this alt universe that is the Ultimate they just went and made Peter Parker be a Latino, but they want to push it like its something incredible they have come up with. Well the comic did not sell so well so clearly it was a blunder where with a few years later they instead went with the Superior story and that one is just so much better. Superior Spider-Man has that Absolute justice, the hard justice so to speak which gives him another ethical view on how to solve crimes. Where Morales as I mentioned just has like to 99% the exact same ethical / moral w.e standpoint as the standard Peter Parker, it was just so meaningless.
There has been other Spider-"Mans" in other universe before Spiderverse but yeah there its a lot of them. But most of them don't really get so much screen time but before that we had for example Spider-Women in Exiles which was Mary Jane being bitten instead, of course now we have the Spider-Gwen from Spider-Verse that is kinda like that MJ story I suppose, but MJ was also a lesbian and she did fall in love with the female alt version of Sunfire in the exile team and then they died and stuff. Yes ok the Exile storyline are sometime hard to follow especially out of context to the main 616 but it was a very good storyline, and vastly more interesting then just a Peter Parker but not white. I am not saying they should have gone all the way so to speak with the MJ version who was I would guess maybe a little to much extreme for the more mainstream comic of Ultimate ( I would guess that was on of their concerns) but couldn't Morales be more unique? In every scene of him in Spiderverse story we had him, in my onion just as a young Peter Parker 616. Really pointless. For example Old man Spider(I think that was his name) he uses bullets in his web shooters and like he and Superior Spider-Man discuss he is willing to kill. Why wouldent Ultimate Spider-Man be something else then just young Peter again.
Note that I am not saying that it would be automatically better if for example Morales was a flamboyant gay person, the major difference is how Doctor Octopus trying to be good person with spider powers, which creates a story with way different view of life, on relationship on work etc and of course on how to save people and the city. Its a very interesting perspective and change from the standard Peter Parker, if Morales then for example was gay I am sure they still would have just have him have with the exact same personality and that would also be boring and pointless. It would just be him saving a male version of MJ/Gwen(not saving I guess) instead. Thats not what I want to read in those, "What if" Scenarios especially the ones that have a several issues on it. Because the other standard What If are just 1 single comic and then it can be they can go with massive changes or slight changes but a series it should be meaningful if its a alternative to 616 version.(Yes I am full aware that Superior was in 616 which I would say just made it all the better)
Also the brand new day storyline kinda made Peter go back to being a kid again. It reversed a lot of the years and it sucked. And in the context to Morales ergo the death of Ultimate Peter Parker is that not just also a go back time to teenage years which they had just then done a few years prior with 616.
Rant over but I do think it actually also affects Marvel Avengers Alliance because when I look at Ultimate Spider-Man in the game hes just Spider-Man. Same Passive, some other web attack and some bio attack with like aoe stun instead of the single target stun Spider-Man has.....they are 2 very similar in game characters. And I guess that Playdom actually did a very correct design as the writers of the original comics pretty much just did a young Peter Parker with him so the game character should just be a slightly updated version of the old Spider-Man we already have.
And right away there we can conclude that hes pretty bad. That is just very glaringly obvious if you ask me. As Spider-Man by far is not the best character. He was actually the best character in the game season 1! No joke Spider-man + Human Torch was the best team in the beginning of this game. But the problem is that since then he got a nerfed not hard nerfed but a little either so some kind of middle ground nerf guess, but his real issue comes from the easy way to removes buffs etc and other items like the passive evasion from the Cube and so on. Basically Spider-Man has become more and more useless for every season of the game. And then we get this cahracter which do not have the remover weakness but otherwise is kinda the same character(just like in the comics) so yeah he is gonna be a bad character and yet again like I wrote about Superior-Spider-Man another character which unfortunately will have zero effect on the game.
Like I said in the last article and have said for like the last 3-4 recaps I would love some changes. Get some characters that really shakes the pvp up. So to release a cahracter which is almost the exact same a clearly a bottom character, that will do nothing.
Lets go into his abilities then.
Like all otehr Spider-Man he does use the webbing debuffs(and also some symbiots), if anything then he should be played with the incoming masses of spiders.
He do have the exact same passive Peter has, the avoid chance + chance to cover even aoe attacks. And because of this him and Peter is the best team for him by far. Then you get 2 person with webbing attacks + potentially agent with the old webbing weapons And they will both occasionally cover attacks, occasionally avoid everything etc. They can actually be kinda good.
However, this is suuuuuuper weak. Because you cant block psychic attacks from example Emma you cant block catastrophic attacks from example Magneto, this is one of the reasons why Original Spider-Man is worse and worse Catastrophic attacks are more common today well he was the hard Counter to Emma but the nerf on him exactly hit on that strength so yeah...and Morales don't have the evasion +++ ability he only has the random avoid passive actually making him overly have worse passives to then Spier-Man with a Suit. Which makes him really, really crappy. Hes an new character which is just a worse weaker version of an already established character that if you are using him already got isos for him. Looking at the passive there is 0% reason to change spiders. They can still work together but they are just good vs specific teams. Actually they are pretty good against Nul and Kuurth as both of them are based on attacking and if e.g Nul misses no meteors, so going to Adam with 2 Spiders in attack should not be hard.
However, Nul do have grounded attack. Which cant be blocked I have beaten Nul with Ultimate in pvp easily as he can avoid most of the meteor stacks but still the game has more grounded attacks, just like more catastrophic more stealth(which is hardly used anymore but still) etc. Tanking simply sucks. Its worse for characters like Captain America where the protect can easily be removed as well. But even for passive tanks its a for the most part a horrible game plan. Tanking died out in season 4. 2 + years ago. And then that Ultimate is a worse tank then 616 that its not very useful.
616 Passive > Ultimate Passive > Superior Spider-Man
But its better then the crap of Superior who just counters and does not even avoid.
However, and this is a big however. I don't want to compare to much to Superior I mainly wanted to again remind of much his passive sucks. But his primary attack the one he uses to counter with its way better then Ultimate is.
All the spiders counter with their first ability.
And Ultimate just does webbing, man is that bad. Its just does webbing!!! That is so bad. Superior also does webbing but it at least has Fumble on it. And that is still pretty bad but he counters all moves(except stealth and psychic and so on) so he spreads that around easily that helps other characters possible otehr spiders to spread webbing. Now Normal 616 Peter also just does webbing but it has exploit webbing..yes a lot of webbing. But if you then combo Peter + Dock ok they are gonna counter all the time from the fumble then hes gonna do extra damage from the otehr spiders webbing or his own etc.
Basically Ultimate is shit. Why does he only have the webbing and nothing else it makes zero fucking sense and the game is going into some kind of reverse power creeping where the last 6 or so characters are just weaker then the character before it. Its utter crap that is primary attack, the one he will use for counters, follow ups etc only does the specific spider debuff. Which also then limits him even more to be only played with other spiders. The fumble is not fantastic but its usable for all characters not just other spiders.
But evne then ignoring Superior, it just really retarded how the vanilla our 616 already owned(I guess most have him by far) Spider-Man got something extra on is primary attack. If you did not get Ultiamte at the Special Operation why use a lot of gold to get him when you can just get the better classic Spider-Man really.
And this I say already before I even go into his other 3 abilities, which I will say at least are a little better. Spider-Man always had a weak offense he was just good with his passives.
Oh wait when people say that they usually include his really good second ability spider sense.
Spider sense gives 616 double the evasion and he can evade everything for 1 turn easily. Which makes him tanking so good. Ultimate don't have this....so yeah. Hes a copy but he lacks the uber evasion, so hes just gonna get hit a lot. While Spider-Mans 3 and 4th ability are pretty bad a major reason why hes not a top character as he do have good passives but he cant do much except not dieing. Ultimate does have a more 2 useful attacks, but I would rather have the evasion x 2 + the aoe tanking then just aoe tanking and maybe evade. Clearly spider-man was designed with this boost to the evasion in mind and not having tat makes it just pure luck if he avoids by his chance to cloak. Making his passive be way more unreliable then the 616.
Instead of the evasion + he got a debuff move as a second ability which is ok Its a stealth move and it can stun them by incapacitation(which counts as stun for exploit effects) and and a dot and new debuff/dot hat drains Stamina. Draining Stamina is of course 100% useless in pvp so ignore it. I guess it might come more in handy for a double spider-man team as the game takes longer, none of them dieing so fast and no one doing any damage. But for a pvp player with decent stat is wont matter at all n 99/100 games. A pretty bad move.
His third ability then...is yet again just a fucking worse version then 616. Its literally the exact same type of attack with the same type of set up just that it does less damage. Meaning that just like the first ability its a worse version then what the standard spider-man has so again its 616 > Ultimate.
It exploits stun webbing and has high crits so its a finishing move after setting up the debuffs. 616 also exploits webbing but instead of exploiting stun he just have a 100% critical chance instead if they are webbed. Which means he will deal higher damage at average and its much easier to set up as you got a freaking webbing team right. + It deals higher base damage by like 50% So its actually does way more damage and is much, much easier to set up. Like Spider A counters, then 616 can right away use the finish move on that opponent having the 100% crit and hit + bonus exploit damage here Ultimate first need to set up the stun as well. And I mentioned this that he has an incapacitation debuff which is better then having just stun as that will go away after the character has been stunned right away. So its hard, its just simply hard to set up stun exploit easier with the incapacitation but still bad probably the worst exploit in the game. And then it also don't have the 100% crit. Its just worse then 616 on every level. Especially in how its easy for 616 to counter and then right away at turn 1 do the finisher, he cna do that easily. Ultimate can half ass finish with not stun.
616 third ability "Finisher" > Ultimate third ability "Finisher"
The ultimate ability is the only thing that ultimate spider-man has that is worth something(which is good as we call it an ultimate:). Its aoe stun that does pretty much zero damage but it always stun everyone. It also does critical to 100% for w.e reason as it still does no damage and it can be blocked because as mentioned tanks sucks.
Normal 616 only has a single target attack that does very low damage(higher then this but still insignificant low) and a chance to stun. So that is a crap ability Peter has and have always been a let down with him. This move however, also stuns Morales....and many people use stun immune on the characters, I for example always go with a stun immune agent so he can save the others if they are stunned. Stunning is outdated.by far. And you cant combo this with his third as he get self stunned by the kick like a mule debuff. So yeah still pretty bad only reason its better for once then 616 is because 616 has like the worst ultimate in the game, no joke 616 could very well have the worst in the game. Its no very hard to beat not the absolute worst.
0/10. The standard Spider-Man is 10x better only reason you might consider using Ultimate is to do a spider theme but I would for example rather use Spider-Man Noir(he looks way better) even Superior even do he is also weak.
